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		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Jan 2010 02:32:16 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Norm</dc:creator>
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Job interview, aka complete waste of time is a post from: Jobless and Less: The Blog for the Employmentally Challenged I had a job interview for an Account Manager position&#8230; a very odd job interview. I don&#8217;t really know what to make of it. So maybe teasing out my thoughts into an epic blog post, [...]]]></description>
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<p>I had a job interview for an Account Manager position&#8230; a very odd job interview. I don&#8217;t really know what to make of it. So maybe teasing out my thoughts into an epic blog post, laced with humor and vitriol, will clear things up. What would really clear things up&#8230; having this post picked up by a publisher, expanded into a book bought by millions of people and turned into a movie, with the part of Norm, the <a title="Norm Elrod resume" href="http://www.joblessandless.com/resume/">fearless unemployed blogger</a>, played by <a title="George Clooney fan site" href="http://www.gclooney.com/">George Clooney</a>. Maybe it wouldn&#8217;t. And George might not want to endure the months of gym time necessary to fully become the character. But I really think we should try, just to be sure.</p>
<p>I arrived early for my interview. So I stood outside the nondescript downtown office building, scrolling through emails on my phone. A leisurely stroll from the subway, past <a title="City Hall wiki" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_York_City_Hall">City Hall</a> and through the <a title="City Hall Park page" href="http://www.nycgovparks.org/parks/cityhallpark/">neighboring park</a>, didn&#8217;t kill enough time. Nor did a quick and depressing stop at the bank machine. But being early is good. It shows eagerness. It shows discipline and drive. It shows that I have nothing better to do.</p>
<p><span id="more-3135"></span>The company&#8217;s office sat at the end of a meandering hallway, next to a sketchy-looking medical office. I walked in to find the receptionist vacuuming around her messy desk. It was jammed into a corner with some boxes and a couple of broken fans. A narrow walkway, lined with shiny metal chairs and blurry pictures of New York City, led to three offices. Had they furnished the space with leftovers from the previous occupant? The place was uninspiring for a marketing company. It was uninspiring for any company.</p>
<p>I asked to use the bathroom, and the receptionist directed me back out of the office to a door marked &#8220;Out of Order.&#8221; &#8220;Ignore the sign,&#8221; she explained. &#8220;It works.&#8221; And technically it did, thanks to copious amounts of duct tape. The bathroom appeared to have exploded recently and been pieced back together by <a title="MacGyver wiki" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MacGyver">MacGyver</a>. Times are hard even for former television stars. I went about my business quickly, touching only what I had to.</p>
<p>The receptionist handed me a clipboard upon my return. A basic information sheet was attached, along with an interesting questionnaire. It contained 20 or so groupings of four adjectives, with directions to choose which of the four most and least describes me. The purpose was to create a psychological profile and ferret out the people who would excel in a certain role. I&#8217;ll make up an example to illustrate&#8230;</p>
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<li><strong>W</strong>atchful</li>
<li><strong>T</strong>heatric</li>
<li><strong>F</strong>ucoid</li>
<li><strong>H</strong>elpful</li>
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<p>I would probably check off &#8220;most&#8221; for &#8220;helpful&#8221; or maybe &#8220;watchful&#8221; and &#8220;least&#8221; for &#8220;fucoid,&#8221; since I&#8217;m not &#8220;of or like seaweed.&#8221; But the appropriate answers weren&#8217;t always so obvious. Sometimes none of the words applied, leaving me to pick the best of the worst. Sometimes all of them applied, forcing me to pick the &#8220;least&#8221; tag for something positive and sell myself short.</p>
<p>After completing the application, I was called in to interview. The interviewer&#8217;s office was dominated by a huge curtain-less window overlooking Broadway. Sunshine streamed in. Still the room was only slightly less depressing than the waiting area. It contained a desk and a couple more metal chairs. I don&#8217;t even remember a computer or any personal effects. The office seemed to belong to no one.</p>
<p>My interviewer was tall, well dressed and barely out of college. Being closer to 40 than 30, I&#8217;m increasingly aware of people way younger than me in positions of power. He asked questions as if seeing my resume for the first time. &#8220;So&#8230; you worked at company X. How was that?&#8221; I answered simply, praising the company and the experience of working there. He didn&#8217;t really listen. His cellphone rang at one point, and he checked it. After a few stale exchanges, he asked why I was applying for an entry-level job. This was news to me. My rather direct response was that I didn&#8217;t know I was. Account Manager isn&#8217;t usually an entry-level job. He ceded my point. I ceased to care about the job.</p>
<p>With the interview portion of the meeting out of the way, he launched into his spiel. This is the type of company we are. This is our way of doing business. This is the project we&#8217;re hiring for. He&#8217;d obviously delivered the words many times and been instructed exactly how to do so. He maintained strong eye contact throughout, as if trying to hold me in place. He leaned slightly forward, as if trying to engage me more. There was a thought-out method to all this.</p>
<p>I listened and tried to figure out the angle. Everything sounded reasonable, sort of like a <a title="Pyramid scheme post" href="http://www.joblessandless.com/2009/04/pyramid-schemes-love-the-unemployed/">pyramid scheme</a> does until you actually explore a little. This seemed like a scam, but I couldn&#8217;t figure out why. I just knew that I wanted no part of it.</p>
<p>I imagined all the applicants who&#8217;d sat exactly where I was sitting. I imagined all the applicants who would sit where I was sitting. I felt stupid and small. Stupid for putting on a suit and dragging my unemployed ass halfway across the city for something I suspected would be a waste of time. Small for not having a choice. Putting up with such nonsense is so frustrating.</p>
<p>He handed me a business card at the end of his little speech. He was a partner. The company would decide quickly who to bring back for a more in-depth interview. I could expect a call as soon as that afternoon. He instructed me to keep my phone line open. I said that I would, though I was really looking forward to actively ignoring the call. I didn&#8217;t even get that chance. He never called.</p>
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		<title>Here come the recruiters, hide your long-term unemployed</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jan 2010 13:00:04 +0000</pubDate>
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Here come the recruiters, hide your long-term unemployed is a post from: Jobless and Less: The Blog for the Employmentally Challenged Three recruiters contacted me last Thursday, all within about an hour of each other. The stars must have aligned just so, creating a world where my resume springs to the top of every job [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.joblessandless.com/2010/01/here-come-the-recruiters-hide-your-long-term-unemployed/">Here come the recruiters, hide your long-term unemployed</a> is a post from: <a href="http://www.joblessandless.com">Jobless and Less</a>: The Blog for the Employmentally Challenged</p>
<div id="attachment_3136" class="wp-caption alignleft" style="width: 310px"><a href="http://www.joblessandless.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/Meeting.jpg"><img class="size-medium wp-image-3136" title="Meeting" src="http://www.joblessandless.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/Meeting-300x224.jpg" alt="Meeting 300x224 Here come the recruiters, hide your long term unemployed" width="300" height="224" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">This says &quot;stats.&quot; If you had eyes, you&#39;d know. (courtesy of http://www.recruitingblogs.com/)</p></div>
<p>Three recruiters contacted me last Thursday, all within about an hour of each other. The stars must have aligned just so, creating a world where my resume springs to the top of every job board search for &#8220;<a title="Norm Elrod LinkedIn profile" href="http://www.linkedin.com/profile?viewProfile=&amp;key=585621&amp;authToken=g9g5&amp;authType=NAME_SEARCH&amp;locale=en_US&amp;srchindex=1&amp;pvs=ps&amp;goback=.fps_norm+elrod_*1_*1_*1_*1_*1_*1_*1_Y_*1_*1_*1_false_1_R_true_CC%2CN%2CI%2CG%2CPC%2CED%2CFG%2CL%2CDR_*2_*2_*2_*2_*2_*2_*2_*2_*2_*2_*2_*2_*2_*2_*2_*2">digital marketing professional</a>.&#8221; Does this signal the end of the famine, or the beginning of the famine? I&#8217;ll let you know when I eat, or die. Maybe it just means I should buy a lottery ticket.</p>
<p>The first recruiter was filling an in-house search engine marketing position, but expressed concern about my extended unemployment. His clients &#8211; potential employers &#8211; think there&#8217;s a problem when a candidate&#8217;s unemployment stretches past six months, horrible job market notwithstanding. Skills deteriorate; people get lazy. The long-term unemployed guy, the thinking goes, must be spending all his free time watching &#8220;<a title="Roseanne wiki" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roseanne_%28TV_series%29">Roseanne</a>&#8221; reruns and inhaling <a title="Little Debbie site" href="http://www.littledebbie.com/">Little Debbie snack cakes</a> by the the pallet. Why hire someone who can barely remember how to bathe himself?</p>
<p><span id="more-3133"></span>But a job search takes a month for every $10,000 of expected income. If my second grade math skills hold up (it has been 30 years), anyone expecting to make over $60,000 a year (6 X 10,000) may want to reexamine their options. A lower salary may be preferable to perceived obsolescence. I understand the recruiter&#8217;s point. I don&#8217;t like it, but he&#8217;s probably right. The burden is on the job seeker to prove continued relevance in an ultra-competitive job market. It&#8217;s nice to know the job of finding a job is that much harder.</p>
<p>I wasn&#8217;t really qualified for the opening anyway. We both knew it. I tried to talk my way into a meeting anyway, because that&#8217;s what I have to do. He backpedaled away from any sort of firm commitment, like a juggler on a unicycle. Recruiters are good at that. The call ended with his promise to run my resume by the company. Even if he actually does, nothing will come of it.</p>
<p>The second email came from an HR person at a reputable company. I would happily work at this place; I&#8217;d even hang out in their cafeteria just to make people think I work there. My qualifications line up nicely with the company&#8217;s needs, upon first glance. I followed up by phone but couldn&#8217;t get through, not even to a voicemail. So I expressed my interest via email, twice. I&#8217;ve yet to hear back, though my fingers and toes are crossed, and crossed again. Typing is painful. I&#8217;ll follow up once more, by phone and email, before writing it off. It&#8217;s frustrating to fail before actually getting a chance.</p>
<p>The third recruiter left a voicemail message while I was cleaning the kitchen and blasting old <a title="Rush site" href="http://www.rush.com/">Rush</a> albums (<a title="Emotions Detector from Power Windows" href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mUkaMT_qFcM">Power Windows</a>, <a title="Force Ten from Hold Your Fire" href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZCn7DyDCLyc">Hold Your Fire</a> and <a title="Tom Sawyer from Moving Pictures" href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UsVCcytLsBA">Moving Pictures</a>, for those of you who were teenage boys in the 1980s). Following up on an email I never received, he invited me to interview for an account manager position. I don&#8217;t remember applying. Nor could I find any record in the vast Excel spreadsheet that tracks my job search exploits. Many open positions don&#8217;t include the company&#8217;s name or identifying information. So I didn&#8217;t think much of it. He left a phone number but no name.</p>
<p>I called back later that afternoon to inquire. A frazzled receptionist who only spoke in rapid fire confirmed the company was interviewing for an account manager. She asked a bunch of questions and then put me on hold. Upon picking up again, she had me repeat everything. She then put me on hold again, picked up again and asked for another recap. We eventually arranged an interview for 10:30 the next day. The company forwarded directions via email later that evening. The email stressed that I should &#8220;&#8230;dress professionally, and to bring a copy of your resume.&#8221; A call confirming the meeting came early the next morning.</p>
<p>The initial phone message and followup email both seemed weird at the time. What recruiter calls and doesn&#8217;t leave a name? And when does a company ever remind someone how to dress for an interview? The phone conversation soured me some, but didn&#8217;t seem that unusual. Having just wrapped up a <a title="Receptionist post" href="http://www.joblessandless.com/2009/12/i-will-never-temp-again-ok-maybe-just-this-once/">stint answering phones</a>, I know all to well that people can be distracted at work.</p>
<p>I researched the company as I always do, reading the website and Googling what I found there. Grammar mistakes and misspellings aside, the website was fine for what the company seemed to be &#8211; a small marketing agency. It only contained a few pages and didn&#8217;t say much of substance, but many are like that. The <a title="Flash wiki" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adobe_Flash">Flash</a> elements on the site were pointless and annoying. All in all, though, I&#8217;ve seen much worse.</p>
<p>The lack of additional info beyond the website concerned me too. Besides a few online press releases, which anyone with a <a title="PRWeb site" href="http://www.prwebdirect.com/">PRWeb</a> account can post for free, there was nothing. Maybe I didn&#8217;t dig enough. But a search on any company name should yield tons of stuff. My name brings up pages and pages of results, not that I ever Google it. I especially don&#8217;t search for <a title="Onesie post" href="http://www.joblessandless.com/2009/01/not-the-clothes-off-my-back/">&#8220;Norm Elrod&#8221; in my pajamas</a>, late at night, while listening to &#8220;<a title="Juke Box Hero song" href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V-gEijGg8t0">Juke Box Hero</a>&#8221; on repeat and pining for the fame and fortune I so desperately desire. That would be dysfunctional.</p>
<p>And I am anything but dysfunctional. I may have forgotten marketing and basic math, as far as recruiters are concerned. But I am not dysfunctional. I am desperate however. So I went through with the interview. As my next post will reveal, that was a complete waste of time.</p>
<p><em>Read <a title="Job interview post" href="http://www.joblessandless.com/2010/01/job-interview-aka-complete-waste-of-time/">Job interview, aka complete waste of time</a></em></p>
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